tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2008746585554033760.post5369916491122462357..comments2023-04-04T04:44:48.331-07:00Comments on Brown Envelope Seeds: independently funded articles on GM potatoesMadeline McKeeverhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17134381548508413567noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2008746585554033760.post-90286165679863673692013-03-29T13:52:55.378-07:002013-03-29T13:52:55.378-07:00The track record for "industrial" toxico...The track record for "industrial" toxicology studies seems mixed at best. Who'd of thought, in the 1960's to check the reproductive effects of chemicals at concentrations barely detectable by equipment of the day? Now we know that an unitended side effect of the plastics industry is the production of oestrogen mimicking chemicals that, even in minute quantities, alter the embryonic development of fish. Studying chronic exposure to industrial chemicals - or to the the novel mix of protiens in a GMO - is expensive so industry has done a good job of making sure it mostly doesn't have to undertake that sort of thing. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2008746585554033760.post-35822304416013760572013-03-08T18:55:11.543-08:002013-03-08T18:55:11.543-08:00I don't think many independent trials have tak...I don't think many independent trials have taken place because the biotechnology companies do not allow it. Getting access to the seed is difficult for scientists. I think that if the same kind of money was put into traditional plant breeding as is put into GM amazing results could be achieved. Plant breeding used to be publicly funded and the benefits were free to all. Most crop breeding is now done by profit motivated companies who, naturally want control of the varieties they spend time and money developing. GM crops do not increase the inherent productive ability of crops they are just a quick fix to some specific problem. Monocultures always produce disease problems, new cultural techniques such as intercropping to slow down the spread of disease and techniques like the 'System for the Intensification of Rice" and the planting of more genetically diverse crops, could increase yields significantly. There is plenty of food in the world to feed everyone, people are hungry because they have no money to buy it with, or no land to grow it on. Feeding vast amounts of soya and maize from the Americas, to livestock here, is crazy, especially when one in four children in Argentina is hungry. We need strong democratic governments to take control of food systems and not allow multinational companies dictate to them. Madeline McKeeverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17134381548508413567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2008746585554033760.post-67096638515085162612013-03-08T07:17:07.115-08:002013-03-08T07:17:07.115-08:00Preparing a student debate about GM crops. I have ...Preparing a student debate about GM crops. I have chosen to be the protagonist despite my personal misgivings because I want to inform myself, get past the rhetoric from both sides and get the students to have an opinion. As I see it, there are two main issues. <br /><br />1. the pandonas box effect on the environment and containing the altered genes in the food chain. There may be advantages of course but its a huge risk to biodiversity and contamination of other non GM crops. Its the uncontrollable nature of the change which is worrying and quite different to plant breeding trials of the past. With diversity comes protection.Can you convince me otherwise skepteco?<br /><br />2. Fast tracking the breeding process with nanotechnology to create food which might be nutritionally more advantageous and not need the vast quantities of herbicides i.e. the feed the world approach, or stronger structual and/or energy crops. While the latter is tempting, it has been shown in the past that reliance on monocultures can be dangerous to the environment or to people. Exotic trees, for instance, which out compete native species. Eucalyptus in Spain was thought to be a wonder tree for the industry, but actively accelerates fire of which there are about 3000 a year and there are always deaths involved. The blue lupin in Iceland is running riot, as is Robinia in Poland, Rhododendron in Ireland. With GM alterations, there is not only less of a chance of retributive action because of the more hidden nature of the manipulation, the speed to which it could have disastrous effects may be impossible to contain.<br /><br /><br />While I am more open to suggestion about GM energy or structural crops,I have yet to be convinced that food stuffs that I eat - wheat, apples, potatoes etc etc, and what the animals I eat have been fed on, should be have any GM involvement and I would be interested in your opinions. Trials need strict controls, and, if they are not to contaminate everything around them, should be done in an isolated environment. Might I remind you Skepteco, that plants, although slower than insects, do move and their pollen certainly does. <br /><br />With better food labelling we can choose our primary food but we do not know about the seconday sources as this is not available to the consumer. I am interested to know of any other indepentent food trials testing this technology that is not run by the major food companies and any other comments you all feel you would like to share and which I can communicate to my students. GHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2008746585554033760.post-33466224553183970172012-09-12T02:03:07.989-07:002012-09-12T02:03:07.989-07:00If you had read my previous blog you would know th...If you had read my previous blog you would know that I am against the introduction of GM potatoes as it will be impossible to contain the genes once they are released. Contamination of normal potatoes would be likely either by pollen flow or physical mixing of potatoes. I believe that Ireland should have a participatory potato breeding program, using traditional methods, to introduce blight resistance into varieties suitable to irish conditions and palates. I believe that Teagasc are in contact with the Sarvari trust which has recently had its funding cut, I believe working with them would be a much better use of tax payers money than trialing potatoes with genes patented and owned by foreign interests, that the majority of people don't want to eat. However, as they have already grown a crop of GM potatoes at Oakpark, the best thing they can do with them is feed them to rats. Madeline McKeeverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17134381548508413567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2008746585554033760.post-56379844770828395412012-09-12T00:29:13.020-07:002012-09-12T00:29:13.020-07:00? Surely that would depend upon the results of the...? Surely that would depend upon the results of the trials? That's the whole point of trials, no? and why then are you opposed to the current Teagasc trials? Hard to understand your position: if toxicology studies show they are safe, the only reason not to release them is because of public opposition from activists like yourself; and as far as I can understand, your main objection to the current trials is, that they are not doing toxicology trials!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2008746585554033760.post-28802474509141615522012-09-11T15:18:45.090-07:002012-09-11T15:18:45.090-07:00hmmm... good question. If GM potatoes were to be ...hmmm... good question. If GM potatoes were to be released, I would support it. If not, there would be no point. Madeline McKeeverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17134381548508413567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2008746585554033760.post-67449719757394844442012-09-11T15:13:16.117-07:002012-09-11T15:13:16.117-07:00Would you support GE toxicology feeding trials in ...Would you support GE toxicology feeding trials in Ireland Madeleine? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com